For example, around 30:00 the grandiose flavor of Eisenstein's essay came up. It's a common theme in the current iterations of the developmental milieu, that we are on the verge of the great awakening, and that we know what that is and get to own and dispense it to the ignorant masses.
Which is of course contradictory to the supposed 'not-knowing,' also propounded, that is of course only applied to question pandemic science but not to its own grandiosity. Which, it just so happens, it a common feature of cultish discourse.
Around 31:45 Julian goes into the misuse of so-called non-dual notions of not knowing. That it somehow trumps the duality of our knowing, that we need to avoid such apparently false distinctions between right and wrong, between true and false.
This then gets applied to again question science of the pandemic: How could they possible know what's true about it? But that's what science does: It empirically tests hypothesis and adjusts and further refines, continually getting a better picture of what's going on. One year later after this discussion we now have vaccines because of that process, which will save countless lives. Still the same illogic of applying Eisenstein's original claims are being used now to question the vaccines to the point of conspiracy and the refusal of liberals to take them.
Around 35:00 they mention Jack Adam Weber's rebuttal of Eisenstein.
Around 47:00 they quote Eisenstein on what he calls the 'conspiracy myth' being unfalsifiable. Whereas the participants are aghast in that the conspiracy myths around Covid are indeed falsified via scientific data. But when you question that data as being itself merely a myth from a lesser worldview you enter into your own conspiracy theory.
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